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Join a discussion place for adult strabismic patients and developmental optometrists to share insights and stories; questions and encouragement.

Stereopsis is our goal. "Fixing My Gaze" by Susan Barry is our inspiration.

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Simple graphics to help develop amblyopic eyes 3 Replies

 Here are some double graphics I made to help me develop the ability to see (or look actively) with my amblyopic eye. As many of  you know, amblyopia is particularly pronounced and when the…Continue

Started by Naoise McMullin. Last reply by Naoise McMullin 3 hours ago.

Simple stereo graphics to help fuse with depth 7 Replies

 I don't see why one has to develop flat fusion first, before getting a taste at least of depth fusion. These are some simple graphics I made to help me see with both eyes that also involve a basic…Continue

Started by Naoise McMullin. Last reply by Naoise McMullin 3 hours ago.

Conscious seeing/psychological aspects 8 Replies

I had a really amazing experience this morning with consciously seeing and changing my way of seeing.  I wanted to share it partly because it was so exciting but also to get others' views and…Continue

Started by Rosemary Lodge. Last reply by Naoise McMullin 3 hours ago.

Some stereo photos thought y'all might like 13 Replies

Got these  pictures off flickr, so they're copyright and all that. They were originally "cross eye" images, but I switched them around, so they should be looked at as normal stereograms, ie straight…Continue

Started by Naoise McMullin. Last reply by Rosemary Lodge yesterday.

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Comment by Lynn May on February 28, 2012 at 4:41pm

Yes, I read Sue barry's book - I am looking for a non-technical concise reading. 

Comment by Lynda Rimke on February 28, 2012 at 1:33pm

Good question: when did surgery gain more acceptance? From what I've read, it seems this developed in the 1950s in most parts of the country. Brock's wrtitings are from the 1940s.

Then Hubert and Weisel published their cat experiment in the 1960s limiting plasticity to the first few months, further sealing the nail in the VT coffin.

Note how many 50-somethings are on this forum, now seeking the VT they were told didn't work over the last 40 years. I for one, was discouraged VT by a developmental optometrist in 1980 because he could only guarantee I would see double. Even when I sought VT in 2011 I was given no promises it would work by the practicing FCOVD in the area.

Sue Barry's published works in this century have only begun to offset the untruths that have been accepted all of our lives, by opthalmologists, by pediatricians ... by the majority of optometrists who only prescribe for acuity, even by developmental optometrists who primarily work with convergence insuffiiciency in children.

Comment by Greg Voth on February 27, 2012 at 11:04pm

I'm no doctor... all opinion here: I reacted to your wax/wan terminology as thought you were referring to some current trend. You are just trying to reference when surgery came to prominence as a treatment option? As surgical techniques were better perfected, I would assume.

Being that surgery is a rather 'quick fix' when compared to many dozens of VT sessions, perhaps many parents trusted then and still choose to put themselves in a surgeons hands - human nature dictates we'll almost always choose the 'easy way.' I would doubt that much surgery is offered to gain 3-D, but more to straighten the eyes.

I'm thankful that my dad was too cheap to go for the surgery option - I'm sure it was offered but would have surely been more risky back in 1958.

Comment by Lynn May on February 27, 2012 at 10:55pm

Thanks Robert.

I am wondering if there is an article on this that is suitable for non-technical readers.  An article that addresses VT's history and how surgery is confounding the way forward for many. 

Comment by Robert (Bob) Hohendorf OD on February 27, 2012 at 10:46pm

    I think medicine has always been favored surgery and convinced the public of their opinion. VT was started by an English surgeon who's son had a strabismus (characterized by a turned eye). It is just recently being publicly discovered that surgery is a cosmetic procedure and in less than 10% of the cases does it allow for two eye coordination. In 90% of the cases the eyes look straight for awhile.

Comment by Lynn May on February 27, 2012 at 10:27pm

When surgery gained more currency over VT - I am trying to understand this process - how it happened.

Comment by Robert (Bob) Hohendorf OD on February 27, 2012 at 10:24pm

    I thought Sue Barry blends the technical and the personal experiences she went through very nicely. The specifics you personally need may indeed be very prsonal and specific to you.

    What do you mean by the waxing and waning of surgery and VT?

Bob H

Comment by Lynn May on February 27, 2012 at 10:06pm

At Greg - yes - maybe I should have said the waning of VT and waxing of surgery and now the waxing of VT.

 

At Robert,  Yes, I watched that video and I enjoyed it.  I am asking for something more specific.  Again "Does anyone know - are there any lectures online, or any readings, that discuss/explain the waning of vision therapy and the waxing of surgery that are non-technical"

Comment by Robert (Bob) Hohendorf OD on February 27, 2012 at 9:37pm

Hi Lynn,

   check out Sue Barry recorded for the TED lecture series. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCCtphdXhq8

Comment by Greg Voth on February 27, 2012 at 8:59pm

Welcome to sovoto, Lynn. I hope awareness of VT is on the rise, not the decline. I'd certainly like links to articles that say otherwise.

 

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